--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tapio,
>
> Yes it will run in parallel without blocking the Coordinated Motion as long as it is not an Axis in the Coordinated Motion System.
>
> BTW I made a typeo.  It should be Move() not Mover().
>
> Regarding DAC change on Timer.  You would need to explain more clearly what you mean.  But most likely yes you can write a C program loop to write DAC values based on Time_secs() values.  New values could be written every 180us.
>
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:06 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: independent movement??
>
>
>
>  
> Hi Tom!
>
> If I put Mover() or Jog() to Mach notifyuser thread would that then run async/parallel to a coord motion or would it block the coord motion until it finishes?
>
> I'm looking for a way to make one axis run on it's own phase while coord motion system is running an other task.
>
> Also, is there a way to make a DAC change on timer/PWM?
> I need to control a welding power source so that I get arc pulsing.
>
> Rgds,
> Tapio
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tapio,
> >
> > You can use Mover() or Jog() functions to move an axis outside of the coordinate system.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:01 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] independent movement??
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > How would I go about creating controlled movement on one axis that would be independent of coordinated motion system?
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Tapio
> >
>

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "tapiolarikka" <tapio.larikka@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom!
>
> Most welding machines if have seen, define arc pulsing with
>
> Phase time, (0.1sec to 1.2sec in my application)
> Pulse ratio (0-100% of phase time high amps, rest low amps)
> High amps, controlled by DAC
> Low amps, controlled by DAC
> Rampup time in sec, current rise time from 0 to high amp at ignition/start, analog to acceleration
> Rampdown time in sec, current fall time to 0, analog to deceleration
>
> One could say that I'm basically looking for a way to have a second, async coord motion, consisting of a rotational axis starting from
> 0 deg and a DAC (connected to welding power source current pot) controlling the welding current.
>
> Simple welding program example would look like
>
> Sector speed pulse% LowA HighA Phasetime
> 0 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 90 2 60 30 40 0,6
> 180 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 270 2 60 30 40 0,6
> 360 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 370 2,5 100 18 18 0,6
>
> after axis has reach the last sector (370 above) the axis should keep running for the period of ramp down during which the current gradually decreases until given cutoff value.
>
> Switching from high amp to low and back is square wave like PWM, but between two DAC values instead of 0&1 whereas the speed and current changes between two sectors would be linear.
>
> Loading new speed and current values every 180us is way more accurate than needed and the high/low amp transition is not synced to angle/pos.
>
> Could the above, if I have managed to express myself understandably, be accomplished in a user thread without putting to much computational stress on system, causing problems for a three axis milling?
>
> Rgds,
> Tapio
>
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tapio,
> >
> > Yes it will run in parallel without blocking the Coordinated Motion as long as it is not an Axis in the Coordinated Motion System.
> >
> > BTW I made a typeo.  It should be Move() not Mover().
> >
> > Regarding DAC change on Timer.  You would need to explain more clearly what you mean.  But most likely yes you can write a C program loop to write DAC values based on Time_secs() values.  New values could be written every 180us.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:06 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: independent movement??
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > If I put Mover() or Jog() to Mach notifyuser thread would that then run async/parallel to a coord motion or would it block the coord motion until it finishes?
> >
> > I'm looking for a way to make one axis run on it's own phase while coord motion system is running an other task.
> >
> > Also, is there a way to make a DAC change on timer/PWM?
> > I need to control a welding power source so that I get arc pulsing.
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Tapio
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tapio,
> > >
> > > You can use Mover() or Jog() functions to move an axis outside of the coordinate system.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] independent movement??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Hi Tom!
> > >
> > > How would I go about creating controlled movement on one axis that would be independent of coordinated motion system?
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Tapio
> > >
> >
>

 

Hi Tom!

Have you had a chance to give this any thought?

Rgds,

Tapio

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "tapiolarikka" <tapio.larikka@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom!
>
> Most welding machines if have seen, define arc pulsing with
>
> Phase time, (0.1sec to 1.2sec in my application)
> Pulse ratio (0-100% of phase time high amps, rest low amps)
> High amps, controlled by DAC
> Low amps, controlled by DAC
> Rampup time in sec, current rise time from 0 to high amp at ignition/start, analog to acceleration
> Rampdown time in sec, current fall time to 0, analog to deceleration
>
> One could say that I'm basically looking for a way to have a second, async coord motion, consisting of a rotational axis starting from
> 0 deg and a DAC (connected to welding power source current pot) controlling the welding current.
>
> Simple welding program example would look like
>
> Sector speed pulse% LowA HighA Phasetime
> 0 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 90 2 60 30 40 0,6
> 180 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 270 2 60 30 40 0,6
> 360 2 60 40 70 0,6
> 370 2,5 100 18 18 0,6
>
> after axis has reach the last sector (370 above) the axis should keep running for the period of ramp down during which the current gradually decreases until given cutoff value.
>
> Switching from high amp to low and back is square wave like PWM, but between two DAC values instead of 0&1 whereas the speed and current changes between two sectors would be linear.
>
> Loading new speed and current values every 180us is way more accurate than needed and the high/low amp transition is not synced to angle/pos.
>
> Could the above, if I have managed to express myself understandably, be accomplished in a user thread without putting to much computational stress on system, causing problems for a three axis milling?
>
> Rgds,
> Tapio
>
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tapio,
> >
> > Yes it will run in parallel without blocking the Coordinated Motion as long as it is not an Axis in the Coordinated Motion System.
> >
> > BTW I made a typeo.  It should be Move() not Mover().
> >
> > Regarding DAC change on Timer.  You would need to explain more clearly what you mean.  But most likely yes you can write a C program loop to write DAC values based on Time_secs() values.  New values could be written every 180us.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:06 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: independent movement??
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > If I put Mover() or Jog() to Mach notifyuser thread would that then run async/parallel to a coord motion or would it block the coord motion until it finishes?
> >
> > I'm looking for a way to make one axis run on it's own phase while coord motion system is running an other task.
> >
> > Also, is there a way to make a DAC change on timer/PWM?
> > I need to control a welding power source so that I get arc pulsing.
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Tapio
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tapio,
> > >
> > > You can use Mover() or Jog() functions to move an axis outside of the coordinate system.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] independent movement??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Hi Tom!
> > >
> > > How would I go about creating controlled movement on one axis that would be independent of coordinated motion system?
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Tapio
> > >
> >
>

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tapio,
>
> I'm not sure I really understand all that. It seems you want to have a motor axis move 0 to 360 degrees. Or maybe a DAC changing? Or both? I can't see any reason that couldn't be performed with a User program progressing through your table commanding motor destinations and DAC settings as a function of time. You would have to write the code to do this. Did you have a specific question for me?
>
> Regards
> TK
>
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 1:56 PM, "tapiolarikka" <tapio.larikka@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > Have you had a chance to give this any thought?
> >
> > Rgds,
> >
> > Tapio
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "tapiolarikka" <tapio.larikka@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tom!
> > >
> > > Most welding machines if have seen, define arc pulsing with
> > >
> > > Phase time, (0.1sec to 1.2sec in my application)
> > > Pulse ratio (0-100% of phase time high amps, rest low amps)
> > > High amps, controlled by DAC
> > > Low amps, controlled by DAC
> > > Rampup time in sec, current rise time from 0 to high amp at ignition/start, analog to acceleration
> > > Rampdown time in sec, current fall time to 0, analog to deceleration
> > >
> > > One could say that I'm basically looking for a way to have a second, async coord motion, consisting of a rotational axis starting from
> > > 0 deg and a DAC (connected to welding power source current pot) controlling the welding current.
> > >
> > > Simple welding program example would look like
> > >
> > > Sector speed pulse% LowA HighA Phasetime
> > > 0 2 60 40 70 0,6
> > > 90 2 60 30 40 0,6
> > > 180 2 60 40 70 0,6
> > > 270 2 60 30 40 0,6
> > > 360 2 60 40 70 0,6
> > > 370 2,5 100 18 18 0,6
> > >
> > > after axis has reach the last sector (370 above) the axis should keep running for the period of ramp down during which the current gradually decreases until given cutoff value.
> > >
> > > Switching from high amp to low and back is square wave like PWM, but between two DAC values instead of 0&1 whereas the speed and current changes between two sectors would be linear.
> > >
> > > Loading new speed and current values every 180us is way more accurate than needed and the high/low amp transition is not synced to angle/pos.
> > >
> > > Could the above, if I have managed to express myself understandably, be accomplished in a user thread without putting to much computational stress on system, causing problems for a three axis milling?
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Tapio
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Tapio,
> > > >
> > > > Yes it will run in parallel without blocking the Coordinated Motion as long as it is not an Axis in the Coordinated Motion System.
> > > >
> > > > BTW I made a typeo. It should be Move() not Mover().
> > > >
> > > > Regarding DAC change on Timer. You would need to explain more clearly what you mean. But most likely yes you can write a C program loop to write DAC values based on Time_secs() values. New values could be written every 180us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:06 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: independent movement??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Tom!
> > > >
> > > > If I put Mover() or Jog() to Mach notifyuser thread would that then run async/parallel to a coord motion or would it block the coord motion until it finishes?
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for a way to make one axis run on it's own phase while coord motion system is running an other task.
> > > >
> > > > Also, is there a way to make a DAC change on timer/PWM?
> > > > I need to control a welding power source so that I get arc pulsing.
> > > >
> > > > Rgds,
> > > > Tapio
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Tapio,
> > > > >
> > > > > You can use Mover() or Jog() functions to move an axis outside of the coordinate system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: tapiolarikka <tapio.larikka@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] independent movement??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Hi Tom!
> > > > >
> > > > > How would I go about creating controlled movement on one axis that would be independent of coordinated motion system?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rgds,
> > > > > Tapio
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>